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I would like to know if you are located in the USA - I would like to ask some questions? What is the difference in happiness that we feel in the happiest material world compared to highest bliss in God please? Is there a difference in the final realization in this path compared to the Sikh path of Guru Nanak? Are you aware of the Sant Mat path or Radhasoami (Radha Swami) path? It is a path that I like a couple of the masters in. They say that the path reaches the highest level of enlightenment. Is this true?
Rocky (Name changed), USA |
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Here is my effort to answer your questions:
First, yes I live in USA. I came from Indian in 1998. USA gave me stability and conductive environment (of peace) for my spiritual development…so I love it here.
Difference between material happiness and Divine Bliss
You asked: “What is the difference in happiness we feel in the happiest material world compared to highest bliss in God please?”
Technically, the scriptures call the bliss equivalent of millions of times more than the material joy that we experience. At the same time the joy that we experience in the material world is derived from the same source (the “Self” or Atman.) The individual mistakes this joy is derived from his senses and the objects around him and he gets attached with objects and the senses themselves (thinking they provide him the joy he is seeking). This is a perfect delusion where human continues to live lives after lives in endless cycles of birth and deaths.
The major difference between material joy and divine bliss is the duration – The joy associated to sensual objects is Anitya (temporary or not permanent) while divine bliss is Avinashi (eternal and it cannot be destroyed). Once the Self-Realization is attained – the divine Bliss is eternal, infinity and unchanging. While in case of material joy – it starts fading very quickly and you can at the most repeat the experience few times then that starts fading too. Example: If you like particular food item, you cannot experience that joy every day you eat that item. You can get it only once in a while and that too for a very short duration. This is the reason why man must change the objects of enjoyment because joy derived from the same object is Anitya.
Human mind and intellect are incapable of understanding or experiencing the bliss. Bliss starts where mind is destroyed and intellect merges with the universal cosmic consciousness (knowledge or Self or Absolute or Brahman). Bliss starts where individual is completely detached from the body and sensual objects – where there is no fear, greed or any passions of mind and there is complete lack of desires (good and bad both).
This is the state of person when he has attained that bliss – I am King of Kings
There is no difference in final realization in any path
You asked: “Is there a difference in the final realization in this path compared to the Sikh path of Guru Nanak?”
When you say “this path” I assume you mean Kundalini Yoga.
There is no difference in the final “Self-Realization” that is achieved from Kundalini Yoga or Sikh path of Guru Nanak or any other path for that matter. Final destination is where the seeker unites with the God where he/she realizes the non-duality of the nature where he is one with the absolute. The ultimate state is an eternal blissful state where person experiences that everything around him and within him is God and nothing but God. His thoughts have detached from his body and merged with the Divine. This is a state where there is no Moha (delusion or extreme greed), fear, desires, attachment, lust, anger, egoism, hatred, jealousy, prejudice, fault-finding, self-justification, evil thoughts and passion.
As long as the path (faith or religion) teaches to follow purity of thought, action and speech it WILL lead the seeker to the same destination – Universal cosmic bliss where everything is The ONE. As long as dogma is separated from the purity the person continues his travel towards the God. When religious dogma takes over the Sadhak (spiritual practitioner) is thrown away from the real path to the God.
At the same time every path has several differences. In my view the path of Bhakti Yoga (devotion and consistent state of self-less love towards the God) is the Supreme most (It does not come by practice, but it can grow by practice if love towards God exists within). The path of Kundalini Yoga is the second best (because the efforts part is taken over by Kundalini). All other paths follow these two. Whichever path one follows (it can be even more than one paths at the same time) the Kundalini awakening is an integral part before the final realization (whether the seeker becomes aware of awakening or not, Kundalini will take over at some point of time on this travel.)
You asked: “Are you aware of the Sant Mat path or Radhasoami (Radha Swami) path? It is a path that I like a couple of the masters in. They say that the path reaches the highest level of enlightenment. Is this true?”
I personally am not aware of this path. But the fact is - Every path that leads seeker on the path of purity with spiritual Sadhana WILL lead Sadhak to the Divine. In fact, if there is a seeker who is capable of learning from experiences in the life and adopting spirituality to life, will reach the Divine eventually. The fact remains – there are not many who carry capacity of learning spiritual wisdom on their own, hence the need of a Guru. Speed of progress is mostly dependent on the Seeker’s efforts than the Guru’s intervention (in any path). Guru can only remove the obstacles in the path to the Divine (by material and spiritual help) but it is the seeker who must walk each step towards the Divine. In case of Kundalini Yoga though, there is direct help from mother Kundalini in purifying Seeker’s Subtle and physical body (even in absence of an able Guru). Ultimately the Kundalini will take the Sadhak to the final goal of Self-Realization.
Thank you.
Mahendra Joshi
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